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From: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
To: Malcolm Hughes <mhughes@ltrr.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: IN STRICTEST CONFIDENCE]
Date: Fri Oct 2 17:06:06 2009

Malcolm,
Keith should be reading emails. Probably been a misunderstanding. I've only glanced at
the nonsense but didn't see anything related to Indigirka. I see they are now getting at
the Taimyr site, so Keith/Tom having to look at that one too.
They have some extra data from Vlad which CA won't have, so whatever they say there
will get more emails about keeping hold of more data. All the issues seem to relate to
canopy closed sites like Fritz would have likely sampled and more open sites. They are
trying to contact the Russians to get site pictures or anything else.
Keith is on +44 1953 851013 if you fancy calling at the weekend.
They get at us for keeping hold of data, but they have no intention of publishing in the
peer-review literature!
Cheers
Phil
At 16:56 02/10/2009, you wrote:

Phil - just in case Keith is not opening email and Tom is helping him out by taking
initiative, here's an email I just sent Keith. Unfortunately, I really had to respond to
this. I hope all is going well for you. Cheers, Malcolm
--
Malcolm K Hughes
Regents' Professor
Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research
The University of Arizona
105 W Stadium
Tucson, AZ 85721
USA
tel: +1-520-621-6470
fax: +1-520-621-8229
mhughes@ltrr.arizona.edu
[1]http://www.ltrr.arizona.edu/people/8
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Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:50:05 -0700
From: Malcolm Hughes <mhughes@ltrr.arizona.edu>
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To: Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>
Subject: IN STRICTEST CONFIDENCE
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Dear Keith - I do hope your recovery continues apace, in spite of the recent nonsense. I
really have had no intention to bother you with work stuff, and had strongly encouraged
Mike and Gavin to contact Tim and/or Tom putting a response on RlCl. So, I'm really
reticent to raise something else, but must.
What's going on? 21st September I got an email from Tom M that contained the following
para, among other more general discussion:
"Keith has been complained at by Climate Audit for cherry picking and not using your
long Indigirka River data set. Not used because we did not have the data. Please, could
we have the data? We will make proper aknowledgement/coauthorship if we use the data."
I replied pretty much straight away thus: "Hi Tom - please find the Esper article in
question attached. The so-called Indigirka River data set is not yet available because
it has not been published. I am currently working on that with Russian colleagues, and
was indeed in Switzerland the week before last to work with one of them on specifically
this. All being well, there will be an accepted manuscript before next summer, and at
that point I will make the data freely available. Once we get to that point, I'll let
you know, of course. Cheers, Malcolm" .
So far, no direct response to this email from Tom.
This morning I get an email from Anders Moberg, telling me that you had asked him for
the "Indigirka data". I've waited a couple of hours before writing this email so as to
try to be constructive. To be sure that you understand what that dataset is and is not,
please read the attached 2006 Moberg corrigendum.
Once again, the actual data are unpublished, in spite of having been discussed in the
Russian literature by Siderova et al. A large proportion of the raw data are not yet in
the public domain, and so you would not be able to critically evaluate the chronology as
a possible climate proxy. Why can that not be said - adequate metadata not available,
please see Moberg corrigendum? By the way, a 600-year reconstruction is available
(Hughes et al 1999, also attached), and all those raw data are at the ITRDB.
As you know, it is my intention to friendly, cooperative and open, but I'm determined to
get some scientific value from all the years of work I've invested in the Yakutia work,
and in cooperation with Russia in general. Releasing these data now would be too much.
Cheers, Malcolm
--
Malcolm K Hughes
Regents' Professor
Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research
The University of Arizona
105 W Stadium
Tucson, AZ 85721
USA
tel: +1-520-621-6470
fax: +1-520-621-8229
mhughes@ltrr.arizona.edu
[2]http://www.ltrr.arizona.edu/people/8

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK
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