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From: Ben Santer <>
To: "Thorne, Peter" <>,, Leopold Haimberger <>, Karl Taylor <>, Tom Wigley <>, John Lanzante <>,, Melissa Free <>, peter gleckler <>, "'Philip D. Jones'" <>, Thomas R Karl <>, Steve Klein <>, carl mears <>, Doug Nychka <>, Gavin Schmidt <>, Steven Sherwood <>, Frank Wentz <>
Subject: [Fwd: Santer et al 2008]
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:13:11 -0700
Cc: "David C. Bader" <>

Dear folks, While on travel in Hawaii, I received a request from Steven McIntyre for all of
the model data used in our IJoC paper (see forwarded email). After some conversation with
my PCMDI colleagues, I have decided not to respond to McIntyre's request. If McIntyre
repeats his request, I will provide him with the same answer that I gave to David Douglass
- all model and observational data used in our IJoC paper are freely available to
scientific researchers (as are algorithms for calculating synthetic MSU temperatures from
climate model and radiosonde data). If Mr. McIntyre wishes to "audit" our analysis and
findings, he has access to exactly the same raw data that we employed. He can compute
synthetic MSU temperatures exactly the same way that we did. And he has full details of the
statistical tests we applied to compare modeled and observed temperature trends. Recall
that McIntyre is the guy who "audited" the temperature reconstructions of Mike Mann and
colleagues. Now it appears as if McIntyre wants to audit us. McIntyre should have "audited"
the methods and findings of Douglass et al. 2007 - not the methods and findings of Santer
et al. 2008. I thought you should know about this development. With best regards, Ben
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Dear Dr Santer,

Could you please provide me either with the monthly model data (49 series) used for
statistical analysis in Santer et al 2008 or a link to a URL. I understand that your
version has been collated from PCMDI ; my interest is in a file of the data as you used it
(I presume that the monthly data used for statistics is about 1-2 MB) .

Thank you for your attention,

Steve McIntyre

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