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From: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
To: Caspar Ammann <ammann@ucar.edu>
Subject: Re: New Wengen Draft -- including changes to accommodate new Figure 3
Date: Wed Aug 27 14:31:48 2008
Cc: Eugene Wahl <Eugene.R.Wahl@noaa.gov>, t.osborn@uea.ac.uk

Caspar,
Thanks.
Phil
At 14:16 27/08/2008, Caspar Ammann wrote:

Phil,
I worked on the figures yesterday and sent them off to Gene for double check. Will be
one panel each (6), much improved legibility and significantly reduced "footprint" in
the appearance of the text. You should have them before the end of your day.
Thanks for all your work on this paper! (Tim too!)
Cheers,
Caspar
On Aug 27, 2008, at 2:42 AM, Phil Jones wrote:

Caspar, Gene,
We're going to send the manuscript back tomorrow. If we get a
revised diagram we'll include - otherwise we won't.
Have had a few more comments, but nothing substantial. All yours Gene
are in, as are those from Gavin, Mike, Juerg and the coral people. There
is a completely revised tropical dendro section and Peck finally came
through with a section on less-resolved proxies and varves.
All in all it reads very well and the recommendations should prove very
useful for PAGES.
Cheers
Phil
At 04:52 26/08/2008, Caspar Ammann wrote:

Hey Gene,
I'll see how I can adjust the figures to fit.
Caspar
On Aug 25, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Eugene Wahl wrote:

Hi Phil and Tim, and Caspar:
Here are my full set of comments on the entirety of section 3, the figures relevant to
section 3, the authors' address, and abstract (none there). I made slight changes in
the portion of the text already sent last night, sorry that I could not avoid that!
Caspar, please note that I've operated here on the assumption that Figure 3 is
simplified to one panel for each section, according to the suggestions we have talked
about, but does contain all 6 portions, A-F.
There are two versions: one with just the relevant portions of the text, and the full
amended text document. The changes noted should be identical in each version.
Peace, Gene
Dr. Eugene R. Wahl
Physical Scientist
NOAA/NESDIS/NCDC/Paleoclimate Branch
325 Broadway Street
Boulder, CO 80305
303-497-6297
[1]http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/paleo.html
[2]P.Jones@uea.ac.uk wrote:

Gene,
Thanks. Today is a holiday here. We'll all be back in
CRU tomorrow. So, we'll begin revising Section 3 then.
Have had quite a few comments so far, and all are in.
New Figure 3 most appreciated. We must send this off
on Thursday or Friday.
Hope you're settling in to Boulder life. At least you
should be able to contact Caspar more easily!
Cheers
Phil
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: New Wengen Draft
From: [3]Eugene.R.Wahl@noaa.gov
Date: Mon, August 25, 2008 2:45 am
To: [4]p.jones@uea.ac.uk
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Hi Phil:
I've had to wait to the weekend to get to this, due to several other
matters that had to be attended to here at NOAA this week and in
relation to a report required by a funder that was due Friday.
I've looked over about half of section 3 (up to the start of section
3.4.2), and also the abstract and the authors' address section.
Attached are my comments on those sections. I will be getting to the
rest of section 3 tonight and tomorrow and will send anything else to
you. Everything is done in WORD with "Track Changes" turned on.
HIGHLIGHTS
1) My address information has been updated to include my NOAA
information, which is now appropriate. The original Alfred information
is kept, as also appropriate. I've condensed it all to not change the
overall page spacing of the address citations.
2) The addition to the results description of the Riedwyl et al.
(2008) paper across pp 10-11 here (near the top of p 56 in the text you
sent this week). It is NECESSARY to keep this addition, as the text as
it was "overemphasized" the differential quality of the RegEM results
in this study. Their graphs 4 and 6 clearly show the results I added,
in which RegEM for winter adds quite problematic artifacts at the
highest levels of noise added. The white-noise SNR at which this
happens (0.25), while low, is not outside of what reality might bring.
[NB: I have talked with Juerg about this situation, and he is clearly
aware of my sense that RegEM is given too high marks in this context.]
3) I added very brief descriptions how the CFRs actually come up with
a reconstruction to the descriptions of them in section 3.2. If you
feel these three sentences cannot be included I understand, but I think
they are useful for the readers to know HOW the covariance information
we are talking about there is actually used.
TO COME: Caspar and I are working out a much simplified version of
Figure 3 (one panel per each section A-F), which I think will be much
better than what is there now. We communicated on that Friday and
yesterday, and are now close to having a new graphic. I will adapt the
references to Figure 3 in section 3.4.2 and in the figure caption in my
next message accordingly, which I plan will come either tonight or
tomorrow.
Peace, and again thanks!
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: From Phil Jones New Wengen Draft

Dear All,
Here's the revised version of the paper, together with the
responses to the reviewers.
We have told John Matthews, that we will get this back to him by
the beginning
of next week. To us in the UK this means Aug 26/27 as next
Monday
is a national
holiday. So, to those not away at the moment, can you look
through
your
parts and get any comments back to us by the end of this week or
over
the
weekend?
Can you also look at the references - those in yellow and let
me
know of
any that have come out, or are able to correct those that I
think
just look
wrong?
I hope you'll think of this as an improvement.
Cheers
Phil
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email [5]p.jones@uea.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK


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Caspar M. Ammann
National Center for Atmospheric Research
Climate and Global Dynamics Division - Paleoclimatology
1850 Table Mesa Drive
Boulder, CO 80307-3000
email: [6]ammann@ucar.edu tel: 303-497-1705 fax: 303-497-1348

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email [7]p.jones@uea.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK
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Caspar M. Ammann
National Center for Atmospheric Research
Climate and Global Dynamics Division - Paleoclimatology
1850 Table Mesa Drive
Boulder, CO 80307-3000
email: [8]ammann@ucar.edu tel: 303-497-1705 fax: 303-497-1348

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK
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References

1. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/paleo.html
2. mailto:P.Jones@uea.ac.uk
3. mailto:Eugene.R.Wahl@noaa.gov
4. mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk
5. mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk
6. mailto:ammann@ucar.edu
7. mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk
8. mailto:ammann@ucar.edu

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