Tuesday, December 27, 2011


From: Michael Mann <mann@meteo.psu.edu>
To: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: A couple of things
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:47:02 -0400
Reply-to: mann@psu.edu
Cc: Gavin Schmidt <gschmidt@giss.nasa.gov>

Hi Phil,
Seems to me that CRU should charge him a fee for the service. He shouldn't be under the
assumption that he has the right to demand reports be scanned in for him on a whim. CRU
should require reasonable monetary compensation for the labor, effort (and postage!).
It this were a colleague acting in good faith, I'd say do it at no cost. But of, course,
he's not. He's not interested in the truth here, he's just looking for another way to try
to undermine confidence in our science.
Henry's review looks helpful and easy to deal w/. Will be interesting to see the other
reviews. I guess you're going to get your moneys' worth out of your scanner,
Phil Jones wrote:

Gavin, Mike,

1. This email came to CRU last night.
From: Steve McIntyre [[1] mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:09 PM
To: [2]alan.ovenden@uea.ac.uk
Subject: Farmer et al 1989
Dear Sir, Can you please send me a pdf of the Farmer et al 1989, cited in Folland
andPArker 1995, which, in turn is cited in the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report. Thanks,
Steve McIntyre
Farmer, G., Wigley, T. M. L., Jones, P. D. and Salmon, M., 1989 'Documenting and
explaining recent global-mean temperature changes'. Climatic Research Unit, Norwich,
Final Report to NERC, UK, Contract GR3/6565 (unpublished)
CRU has just the one copy of this! We've just got a new scanner for a project, so
someone here
is going to try this out - and scan the ~150pp. I'm doing this as this is one of the
reports that I wished I'd written up. It's got all the bucket equations, assessments of
the accuracy of the various estimates for the parameters that have to be made. It also
includes discussion of the shapes (seasonal cycles) of the residual seasonal cycles you
get from different types of buckets prior to WW2 relative to intakes. It also includes
a factor
they haven't considered at all yet - ship speed and its changes over time. This turns
to important. It has a lot more than Folland and Parker (1995). Doubt it will shut them
up for
long - but it will justify your faith in those doing the SST work that we have
considered everything
we could think of. We'll also put it up on our web site at the same time.
2. Reviews of the Holocene epic.
Got this today - so a journal still working by post! Here is Henry's review.
Possibly the other two might involve hand-written comments on hard copies.
Will get these scanned when they arrive and send around if necessary.
Dear Phil
I have today posted two referees' reports to you and the verdict of
accepted subject to taking account of referees' comments. These two
reports do not include the report of Henry Diaz which has just been sent
to you directly. Please take his comments into account too.
John A Matthews
Emeritus Professor of Physical Geography
Editor, The Holocene

Department of Geography
School of the Environment and Society
University of Wales Swansea
Singleton Park

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email [3]p.jones@uea.ac.uk

Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University email: [4]mann@psu.edu
University Park, PA 16802-5013



1. mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca
2. mailto:alan.ovenden@uea.ac.uk
3. mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk
4. mailto:mann@psu.edu
5. http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm

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