Tuesday, December 27, 2011


From: Tim Osborn <t.osborn@uea.ac.uk>
To: g.mcgregor@auckland.ac.nz
Subject: Re: JOC-08-0098 - International Journal of Climatology
Date: Tue May 6 09:19:06 2008

Hi Glenn -- I hope the slow reviewer is not one that I suggested! Sorry if it is. I'm not
sure what Ben Santer expects you to do about it at this stage; I guess you didn't expect
such a lengthy article... I've not seen it, but Phil Jones told me it ran to around 90
pages! Hope all's well in NZ. Tim
At 03:32 06/05/2008, Ben Santer wrote:

Dear Glenn,
This is a little disappointing. We decided to submit our paper to IJoC in order to
correct serious scientific errors in the Douglass et al. IJoC paper. We believe that
there is some urgency here. Extraordinary claims are being made regarding the scientific
value of the Douglass et al. paper, in part by co-authors of that paper. One co-author
(S. Fred Singer) has used the findings of Douglass et al. to buttress his argument that
"Nature not CO2, rules the climate". The longer such erroneous claims are made without
any form of scientific rebuttal, the more harm is caused.
In our communications with Dr. Osborn, we were informed that the review process would be
handled as expeditiously as possible. Had I known that it would take nearly two months
until we received a complete set of review comments, I would not have submitted our
paper to IJoC.
With best regards,
Ben Santer
g.mcgregor@auckland.ac.nz wrote:

JOC-08-0098 - Consistency of Modelled and Observed Temperature Trends in the Tropical
Dear Dr Santer
I am hoping to have the remaining set of comments with 2 weeks of so. As soon as I have
these in hand I will pass them onto to you.
Prof. Glenn McGregor

Benjamin D. Santer
Program for Climate Model Diagnosis and Intercomparison
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
P.O. Box 808, Mail Stop L-103
Livermore, CA 94550, U.S.A.
Tel: (925) 422-2486
FAX: (925) 422-7675
email: santer1@llnl.gov

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