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From: "Michael E. Mann" <>
To: Phil Jones <>
Subject: Re: PAGES/CLIVAR workshop
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:52:32 -0400
Cc: Heinz Wanner <>, Christoph Kull <>, Keith Briffa <>, "Michael E. Mann" <>, Thorsten Kiefer <>

Dear Phil et al,
I agree on Mike Evans. I'm afraid I don't agree on Zorita. He has engaged in some very
nasty, and in my opinion unprofessional email exchanges with some close colleagues of mine
who have established some fundamental undisclosed errors in work he co-published with von
Storch. Given this, I don't believe he can be involved in constructive dialogue of the
sort we're looking for at this workshop. There are some similarly problematic issues w/
Cubasch, who like von Storch, who has engaged in inflammatory and ad hominem public
commentary. There is no room for that on any side of the debate.
If the Germans need to be represented here, I would suggest instead someone from the
Potsdam group, such as Eva Bauer, who has been doing some very interesting work on
modelling the climate of the past 2K,
Phil Jones wrote:

I have checked with IPCC and their 4th meeting is in the June 26-30
week in Bergen..
As for Heinz's suggestions
- Mike Evans would be OK
- I'm nor sure that Mikami would contribute much
See Keith's comment on Zorita
At 14:39 26/08/2005, Heinz Wanner wrote:

Dear Christoph,

I have only a few additional comments concerning the planned workshop.

First of all, I support this concept. Related to the topics, I heavily support to
organize a discussion about how we can reconstruct different paremeters independently.
It is important to try to reconstruct air pressure as a basic circulation parameter - if

Concerning the participants:
- Write GooSSe;
- Mikami from Japan (Tokyo Metropolitan University) could be an interesting Asian
- You mentioned Kevin Trenberth or Mark Cane. Both are absolutely okay, but why not
invite a younger colleague like Mike Evans from Tucson?
- If Phil and Mike do not support von Storch it does not make sense to invite him (and
Eduardo Zorita?);
- For me Ulrich Cubasch is an interesting modeler with good ideas about paleomodeling.
Maybe Gavin can comment this when he is back from his China trip?

Cheers, Heinz
Dr. Heinz Wanner
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